| 2008 WSOP Fantasy Standings | |
| Team | Joel's Pre-event Ranking |
| Peter | 3 |
| Henry | 1 |
| Grant | 5 |
| Joel | 4 |
| Nate | 2 |
| Derek | 7 |
| Eric | 8 |
| Paul | 6 |
Monday, May 26, 2008
Draft Recap
Team Pete
Draft Grade: B+
Pete has a great mix of young talent with quality old school players. Alex Jacob has a great record at the WSOP, and Danny Wong is soon becoming a world-class player. Although we all agree that Phil Hellmuth is by far the best no limit hold 'em player in the world, this scoring format does not benefit him greatly, as he will be playing the larger low-buyin hold 'em tournaments with only top-16 getting points. I can't question that pick too much though
Team Henry
Draft Grade: A-
Henry got the steal of the draft in the 3rd round with Erik Seidel. Negreanu is overdue to win a bracelet, and, if Johnny Chan and Hennegan play a full slate of tournaments, Henry's team could do some tremendous damage. Jennifer Tilly is an awful poker player. Nate would have all of her chips within 5 minutes.
Team Grant
Team Nate
Draft Grade: A-
I am quite envious of Nate's 3 young-guns in Nam Le, Jeff Madsen, and Paul Wasicka. They are excellent NLHE tournament players and I would expect an average of 1 1/2 bracelets from the 3 of them in any given WSOP. I am sure that Nate was excited to snag Phil Ivey at the 5. If he can stay motivated and off the golf course every day, Phil should do very very well. JJ Lu is just weird. I think maybe we should have not made a mandatory woman rule. Noted for next year.
Team Derek
Draft Grade: F
This is almost as bad as Bubs. Gavin Smith is a drunk who will consistently play drunk Chinese Poker until about 8am and struggle out of bed by about 1:30 to try and play events. Let me point out who went in the same round after Smith: Nam Le, J.C. Tran, Gus Hansen, Erick Lindgren, and Alex Jacob. Might want to reconsider that pick, Derek. Humberto Brenes will get bluffed out of a $300k pot to Scotty Nguyen again, and we will all laugh in Derek's face. Derek saved himself a bit by picking a hot asian with his last pick.
Team Bubs
Draft Grade: A+
Solid picks with no flaws. I expect Shawn Sheikhan to win about 5 bracelets, and for Hachem to return to the Final Table of the Main Event only to get busted by Derek Severson along the way. I see zero flaws in the players taken by Bubs. Annie Duke is an excellent player, and (cliche coming) she isn't just one of the best female players in the world - she is one of the best players in the world. I expect Bubs to take this one down. No one else's team even compares player for player.
Team Paul
Draft Grade: C
Paul almost gets a beer can for not being able to participate in the draft due to his fiance being in town, but this was negated by the fact that he had the balls to take SCOTTY NGUYEN in the first round. I would really enjoy watching a drinking contest between Scotty Nguyen and Gavin Smith immediately followed by them playing in the final table of the main event playing for $8 million. Paul's picks would be incredible if this was the 1985 WSOP. Heck, maybe we can just take the results from that year and just simply transfer them over. Paul, you might want to consider dropping T.J. Cloutier and picking up . . . TED FORREST!!! (I think Nate would approve of that move).
I am going to be thinking of some more prizes, and if anyone has any other ideas - preferably related to Las Vegas, NV on September 5-8 - please let me know. Also, everyone will be able to make up to two roster moves by Thursday at midnight. Just post a blog on this website describing who you want to drop/add.
Draft Grade: B+
Pete has a great mix of young talent with quality old school players. Alex Jacob has a great record at the WSOP, and Danny Wong is soon becoming a world-class player. Although we all agree that Phil Hellmuth is by far the best no limit hold 'em player in the world, this scoring format does not benefit him greatly, as he will be playing the larger low-buyin hold 'em tournaments with only top-16 getting points. I can't question that pick too much though
Team Henry
Draft Grade: A-
Henry got the steal of the draft in the 3rd round with Erik Seidel. Negreanu is overdue to win a bracelet, and, if Johnny Chan and Hennegan play a full slate of tournaments, Henry's team could do some tremendous damage. Jennifer Tilly is an awful poker player. Nate would have all of her chips within 5 minutes.
Team Grant
Draft Grade: C+
Grant's team may have gotten an A if not for the Todd Brunson pick. I am contemplating making the 1st place finisher going and cutting off his pony tail. Many would argue that his first round pick was a stretch, with Ivey and Cunningham still available, but Greenstein should do good in the HORSE event and many of the Omaha events. Jordan Morgan was a steal in the 6th round. If Greenstein and Harman can stay away from Bobby's room and play a decent amount of tournaments, he might avoid playing in the Ceasar's daily women's tournament.
Team Joel
Draft Grade: B
Whereas I do really like my first three picks, Shannon Shorr might have been a reach in the 4th round. I had a feeling that Pete was going to take him, so I had to reach out and grab him. If he can avoid going bust with the 7-3 of hearts, I think he will be fine. Tom Dwan is an excellent online player who has had pretty decent success playing live. I am banking on perhaps one cash from Cindy Violette, probably in a stud tournament.Grant's team may have gotten an A if not for the Todd Brunson pick. I am contemplating making the 1st place finisher going and cutting off his pony tail. Many would argue that his first round pick was a stretch, with Ivey and Cunningham still available, but Greenstein should do good in the HORSE event and many of the Omaha events. Jordan Morgan was a steal in the 6th round. If Greenstein and Harman can stay away from Bobby's room and play a decent amount of tournaments, he might avoid playing in the Ceasar's daily women's tournament.
Team Joel
Draft Grade: B
Team Nate
Draft Grade: A-
I am quite envious of Nate's 3 young-guns in Nam Le, Jeff Madsen, and Paul Wasicka. They are excellent NLHE tournament players and I would expect an average of 1 1/2 bracelets from the 3 of them in any given WSOP. I am sure that Nate was excited to snag Phil Ivey at the 5. If he can stay motivated and off the golf course every day, Phil should do very very well. JJ Lu is just weird. I think maybe we should have not made a mandatory woman rule. Noted for next year.
Team Derek
Draft Grade: F
This is almost as bad as Bubs. Gavin Smith is a drunk who will consistently play drunk Chinese Poker until about 8am and struggle out of bed by about 1:30 to try and play events. Let me point out who went in the same round after Smith: Nam Le, J.C. Tran, Gus Hansen, Erick Lindgren, and Alex Jacob. Might want to reconsider that pick, Derek. Humberto Brenes will get bluffed out of a $300k pot to Scotty Nguyen again, and we will all laugh in Derek's face. Derek saved himself a bit by picking a hot asian with his last pick.
Team Bubs
Draft Grade: A+
Solid picks with no flaws. I expect Shawn Sheikhan to win about 5 bracelets, and for Hachem to return to the Final Table of the Main Event only to get busted by Derek Severson along the way. I see zero flaws in the players taken by Bubs. Annie Duke is an excellent player, and (cliche coming) she isn't just one of the best female players in the world - she is one of the best players in the world. I expect Bubs to take this one down. No one else's team even compares player for player.
Team Paul
Draft Grade: C
Paul almost gets a beer can for not being able to participate in the draft due to his fiance being in town, but this was negated by the fact that he had the balls to take SCOTTY NGUYEN in the first round. I would really enjoy watching a drinking contest between Scotty Nguyen and Gavin Smith immediately followed by them playing in the final table of the main event playing for $8 million. Paul's picks would be incredible if this was the 1985 WSOP. Heck, maybe we can just take the results from that year and just simply transfer them over. Paul, you might want to consider dropping T.J. Cloutier and picking up . . . TED FORREST!!! (I think Nate would approve of that move).
I am going to be thinking of some more prizes, and if anyone has any other ideas - preferably related to Las Vegas, NV on September 5-8 - please let me know. Also, everyone will be able to make up to two roster moves by Thursday at midnight. Just post a blog on this website describing who you want to drop/add.
It is Finished!
Here are the results for the 2008 WSOP Fantasy Draft. To submit grievances or changes concerning nicknames please contact Joel Graves.
| Team Peter "If I get off to a bad start in this, I will give it a 'i dont care' hand wave and say 'screw this'" Graves |
| Phil Hellmuth |
| Alex Jacob |
| Danny Wong |
| Andy Bloch |
| Kirk Morrison |
| Clonie Gowan |
| Team Henry "auto-bet/heater-check/PWN" VanderPol |
| Daniel Negreanu |
| Erick Lindgren |
| Erik Seidel |
| John Hennigan |
| Johnny Chan |
| Jennifer Tilly |
| Team Grant "me the Q-10/excellent bankroll management" Landram |
| Barry Greenstein |
| Gus Hansen |
| Lee Watkinson |
| Todd Brunson |
| Jennifer Harman-Tranniello |
| Jordan Morgan |
| Team Joel "Joel/Joel-little punish-the impregnator" Graves |
| Allen Cuningham |
| J.C. Tran |
| Michael Mizrachi |
| Shannon Shorr |
| Tom "Durrr" Dwan |
| Cyndi Violette |
| Team Nate "The-Banker/ I love Ted Forrest" Janda |
| Phil Ivey |
| Nam Le |
| Paul Wasicka |
| Chad Brown |
| Jeff Madsen |
| JJ Lu |
| Team Derek "I owe Pete an all-expense paid trip to Mariners game from last year" Severson |
| John Juanda |
| Gavin Smith |
| Humberto Brenes |
| Michael Binger |
| Jonathan little |
| Evelyn Ng |
| Team Eric "NLTHE AIPF TWIAA" VanderPol |
| Mike Matusow |
| Men Ngyuen |
| Annie Duke |
| Shawn Sheikhan |
| Joe Hachem |
| Derek Severson |
| Team Paul "Don't ask him anything political or economical/too small of a sample size " Graves |
| Scotty Nguyen |
| Chris Ferguson |
| T.J. Cloutier |
| David Chiu |
| Dewey Tomko |
| Anna Wroblewksi |
Round 6
33. Paul - Anna Wroblewski
34. Bubs -Derek Severson
35. Derek - Evelyn Ng
36. Nate - J.J. Lu
37. Joel - Cyndi Violette
38. Grant - Jordan Morgan
39. Henry - Jennifer Tilly
40. Pete - Clonie Gowen
34. Bubs -Derek Severson
35. Derek - Evelyn Ng
36. Nate - J.J. Lu
37. Joel - Cyndi Violette
38. Grant - Jordan Morgan
39. Henry - Jennifer Tilly
40. Pete - Clonie Gowen
Round 5
25. Pete - Kirk Morrison
26. Henry - Johnny Chan
27. Grant - Jennifer Harmon
28. Joel - Tom "durrr" Dwan
29. Nate - Jeff Madsen
30. Derek - Jonathan Little
31. Bubs - Joe Hachem
32. Paul - Dewey Tomko
26. Henry - Johnny Chan
27. Grant - Jennifer Harmon
28. Joel - Tom "durrr" Dwan
29. Nate - Jeff Madsen
30. Derek - Jonathan Little
31. Bubs - Joe Hachem
32. Paul - Dewey Tomko
Round 4
25. Paul - David Chiu
26. Bubs - Shawn Sheikhan
27. Derek - Michael Binger
28. Nate - Chad Brown
29. Joel - Shannon Shorr
30. Grant - Todd Brunson
31. Henry - John Hennigan
32. Pete - Andy Bloch
26. Bubs - Shawn Sheikhan
27. Derek - Michael Binger
28. Nate - Chad Brown
29. Joel - Shannon Shorr
30. Grant - Todd Brunson
31. Henry - John Hennigan
32. Pete - Andy Bloch
Round 3
17. Pete - Danny Wong
18. Henry - Erik Seidel
19. Grant - Lee Watkinson
20. Joel - Michael Mizrachi
21. Nate - Paul Wasicka
22. Derek - Humberto Brenes
23. Bubs - Annie Duke (first female taken)
24. Paul - T.J. Cloutier
18. Henry - Erik Seidel
19. Grant - Lee Watkinson
20. Joel - Michael Mizrachi
21. Nate - Paul Wasicka
22. Derek - Humberto Brenes
23. Bubs - Annie Duke (first female taken)
24. Paul - T.J. Cloutier
Round 2
9. Paul - Chris Ferguson
10. Bubs - Men Nguyen
11. Derek - Gavin Smith
12. Nate - Nam Le
13. Joel - J.C. Tran
14. Grant - Gus Hansen
15. Henry - Erick Lindgren
16. Pete - Alex Jacob
Moving on to round 3 . . .
10. Bubs - Men Nguyen
11. Derek - Gavin Smith
12. Nate - Nam Le
13. Joel - J.C. Tran
14. Grant - Gus Hansen
15. Henry - Erick Lindgren
16. Pete - Alex Jacob
Moving on to round 3 . . .
1st Round
Let the first round begin . . .
1. Pete - Phil Hellmuth (obv.)
2. Henry - Daniel Negreanu
3. Grant - Barry Greenstein
4. Joel - Allen Cunningham
5. Nate - Phil Ivey
6. Derek - John Juanda
7. Bubs - Mike Matusow
8. Paul - Scotty Nguyen
That does it for the first round . . . 2nd round upcoming
1. Pete - Phil Hellmuth (obv.)
2. Henry - Daniel Negreanu
3. Grant - Barry Greenstein
4. Joel - Allen Cunningham
5. Nate - Phil Ivey
6. Derek - John Juanda
7. Bubs - Mike Matusow
8. Paul - Scotty Nguyen
That does it for the first round . . . 2nd round upcoming
Prizes
Here are the prize breakdowns:
7th and 8th place will have to play in a women's tournament while in Vegas September 5-8th.
Most top-16 finishers - $10 from every person
8th pays 1st an all-expense paid trip to a mariners game
7th pays 2nd a night of drinks
6th pays 3rd $30 in casino chips in Vegas
5th and 4th must play at least a 5-hour session in a casino where all of their winnings go towards the Vegas fund.
These were just what I came up with off the top of my head. More will be coming based on input from everyone before the WSOP starts on Friday. Good luck to everyone, and I will be posting picks starting at 6.
7th and 8th place will have to play in a women's tournament while in Vegas September 5-8th.
Most top-16 finishers - $10 from every person
8th pays 1st an all-expense paid trip to a mariners game
7th pays 2nd a night of drinks
6th pays 3rd $30 in casino chips in Vegas
5th and 4th must play at least a 5-hour session in a casino where all of their winnings go towards the Vegas fund.
These were just what I came up with off the top of my head. More will be coming based on input from everyone before the WSOP starts on Friday. Good luck to everyone, and I will be posting picks starting at 6.
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